ok we have had some chatter about the games today already b4 I could post this thread and looks like some good games today. Do you gamble on the gambler or does Slowey slow tiger O down? TB a dog???? other games with some good lines too ...how bout CFL or WNBA...welcome thoughts there too. GO for it!!

lillefty:may I ask y you like them? I realize moyer is worse at home...but looper has a 5+ era during day games and stl offense is struggling right now...talk me into this one cuz my 1st instinct was cards but more I looked into it I shied away

black:Looper pitched a good game his last start vs Cubs w/ 2 ER and we all now Philly can score a bunch when hot. Thing is Cards have more than a few good numbers in the defensive game and some offensive guys who can come up with a 3 run bomb. That coupled with the fact it is a day game and there will be a hell of amount of cash on the Philly side as Moyer is 4-1 lifetime vs the Cards but I see Cards as the money here IMO. Cold hard cash numbers PHI 2-9 in their last 11 home games and 3-12 in their last 15 games as a favorite not to mention a team in the eye of the public!

lillefty:thanx for taking time to voice thoughts . appreciate it !bring it on home

cubs/reds under 11(even)...this seems a little high here. Winds blowing out at wrigley during day game means over right? Not necessarily the case, over has been about 50/50 when winds are 10+ and ump has 8.8 RPG tick with 10 of 17 unders. Reds have hit way below the Mendoza line(.200BA) for last 3 and are hitting .221 in last few games vs lefties(duke,lannan,maholm,and laffey..not exactly carlton, santana, fernando there). Arroyo is a 2nd half pitcher(always has been) and has started this half off stellar albeit vs cleve and nats. He has allowed 1 run in 10 IP last 2 times on the bump.

tor/bal over 8.5 this is a trends play not just a #'s play. 11of the last 12 games between these 2 teams have gone over. 4 out or 6 over for guthrie .O's have played over 7 of last 9 and toronto 5 of last 7. O's pitching has allowed 46 runs in last 6 games while Jays have allowed 45 in last 7.Both pens have been spent as starters haven't been going deep and it shows as both pens have had a 6+ era last 7 days

angel/texas under 9.5 ..While this is a series that has gone over lately, this series has proven that unfamiliarity breeds unders as the 2 texas starters making their MLB debuts shut down the LAA offense which had been clicking. Tonight you have Lackey on a bounceback from his beating at the hands of the Jays. Lackey is 4-1 with a 1.40 era and a .92 whip on the highway this year. He has shut down #'s vs all rangers except for Kinsler(5-12 2 hr) and young(23-66 2 hr). Feldman has been a pleasant surprise for the rangers as he has a 3.2 era and a 1.12 WHIP at home. In his last 5 at Arlington he has gone 33 IP giving up just 8 runs(2.2 era) 22hits and 11 BB for a 1.103 WHIP. Only question for me is can Feldman go 7 to not expose a pen that pitched 6 inn last night. Based on past performances I think he can go at least 6 or 7. Ump averages 8.58 RPG and 11 of 18 have hit under.

white sox(-1/2 run 1st 5 inn)(+135)..buehrle on bounce back here as he gave up 4 runs in his last start. B4 that he had given up on 5 runs in 5 starts totaling 39 inn. 16-6 lifetime vs royals. #'S say he owns them..buck 5-34(.147),butler and gordon 1-5,dejesus 7-39(.179),german 2-14(.143). the only 2 who have solid stats vs buerhle are grudzalanek and teehan but neither of them have real power so others have to be on base to score runs. Greinke has tough stats vs sox hitters..cabrera 3-10,crede 9-23(.391),dye 8-26(.308),pierzynski 7-17(.412),swisher 3-8(.375),uribe 5-16(.313). wont take whole game due to pen situation with sox having no effective closer right now.

If you missed it, check out a recap of the SEA-OAK game. Oakland pulled off a minor miracle as far as comebacks go.

how in the world after getting soft serves from a knuckleballer do you crush 2 HR off a guy throwing 100???

So arizona gives up the 3 run lead in the 10th THEN pulls Pena. un real. i can see this guy falling apart on the ESPN scoreboard.....and the management is watching him!! right there!!! damn i'm bitter today.