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Old 08-25-07, 01:41 PM
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What would you do here?

So you have lets say.. TK diamonds and someone that is tight raises you preflop so you know his range is QQ+ so you call putting him on that range. The flop come Th 6d 5d and he continuation bets the pot (even stacks 15k each 200/400 blinds) he bets 2400 into the pot what do you do? Do you reraise here commiting most of your chips on a draw and pair..or do you peel a card for 2400?..and if you peel and miss..whats your play on the river?
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Old 08-25-07, 05:10 PM
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Re: What would you do here?

TK diamonds with a raise preflop would be an automatic fold. Thats not a good hand.
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Old 08-25-07, 07:39 PM
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Re: What would you do here?

Hey Guy.
1st, I'm not a texas hold them fan, (65th in 1st tourney) but If your heads up with this guy AND nobody left in the tourney I go ALL IN after the flop. If you have a table with 5/6 guys left I agree with Above the Vig. Automatic fold. jack
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Old 08-25-07, 07:47 PM
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Re: What would you do here?

yeah, I was assuming full table. it does change if its not a full table, jacks right about that.
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Old 08-26-07, 02:00 AM
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Re: What would you do here?

he could have AK, but fold is the smart move because a conservative player usually only bets when they are quite sure they have the best hand.
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Old 08-26-07, 05:18 AM
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Re: What would you do here?

Ok its short handed (lets say 5 handed) and you know he has AA QQ and there's 3 tables left and your on the bubble. Do you push your chips in knowing he has QQ-AA? You are about 50-50 and on the bubble, im thinking he prolly calls with both hands cause the shove represents a draw. But my question is...do you take a chance with your hand and push knowing you have outs ,or call and try to hit? The bubble is a factor in this also and you will have alot of chips going into the final table.


(to put it in a nutshell...do you make that play for all your chips on the bubble being 50/50 to get a decent size stack stack to play with or just grind it out and pick your spots?)
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Old 08-26-07, 10:02 AM
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Re: What would you do here?

I think the play is fold if the raise wasn't that big preflop I would pay to see the flop but and if is still not too high will see turn but all in on a pair of 10's to see the river wouldn't do it folding is the way to go unless u can cover him and still be in a good position
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Old 08-26-07, 02:12 PM
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Re: What would you do here?

well lets think about how many outs the guy has, 2 10's, 3 K's and and 10 diamonds. so 15 cards will make your hand better if you fold the you are probably a tight player your self this guy could have a-k(o) or A-Q(s) some tight players would raise with that hand so if 15 cards make your hand better and probably will win it for you. so there are 47 cards you dont know. 15/47 so about 31% of the time you will have (probably) the best hand if you didnt have top pair then fold for sure but since you have top pair keep you options open and just how tight of a player is this guy?
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Old 08-26-07, 02:43 PM
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Re: What would you do here?

My vote is not to raise him, or lest you put yourself in a reraise all in situation. I would pay to peel the next card and use standard pot odds to determine whether or not to see the river. if the guy is tight, he's been waiting for his hand quite a while, and will likely push all in instead of starting from scratch again. but i could be wrong.
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Old 08-26-07, 03:00 PM
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Re: What would you do here?

first off, i probably would fold immediately, or if you are gonna play it, reraise him minimum, if he's huge, he'll come over the top and let you know automatically.
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Old 08-26-07, 04:03 PM
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Re: What would you do here?

dnbchemist does have a valid point i would probably not play the hand if i was raised by a tight player!
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Old 08-26-07, 04:23 PM
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Re: What would you do here?

if your relying on teh whole online poker giving u your draws and u hitting them u push especially on bodog where worst hand wins alot.. but he could be holding rockets and u might not hit so its a 50 5o chance
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Re: What would you do here?

top pair and a flush draw... i push and make this guy play for all of his chips.
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Re: What would you do here?

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if your relying on teh whole online poker giving u your draws and u hitting them u push especially on bodog where worst hand wins alot.. but he could be holding rockets and u might not hit so its a 50 5o chance
i hate comments like this... "the worst hand wins on bodog a lot"...

give me a break... the bodog RNG is no different than any other poker room...

typically people who say something like this have no idea what the best hand is.
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Old 08-26-07, 06:49 PM
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Re: What would you do here?

I think if you are on the bubble with King/10 suited, then the play is to FOLD your hand preflop. Otherwise, I might call a small raise (nothing huge) with it, and on that flop I am probably re-reraising, and if pushed to go all in heads up, I probably would.
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Old 08-26-07, 07:55 PM
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Re: What would you do here?

It is a fold situation for sure, I think chasing is a bad idea vs sum1 that plays tight. If you miss you cant bluff them off because if they are in the pot they have a gr8 hand.
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Old 08-26-07, 08:35 PM
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Re: What would you do here?

not knowing the pot size post flop is a missing piece of crucial info, but, you have 14 outs which is approximately a 30% chance of hitting a card that dramatically improves your chance of winning. the bet to you is about 1/6 of your remaining stack. if you hit this could be a huge bump up in position for you. the quick check says if the bet is about 1/3 or less of the pot you can consider calling even if you believe you are behind in the hand. if the postflop bet is 100% of the pot then pot odds say you should fold. if you call and do not hit you now have only a 15 percent chance of hitting on the river and you still have 30+ blinds in your stack, but if you do hit and your opponent is a tight player with AA, KK, QQ in his hand then with all the undercards on the table he may not be able to let his big pair go, well then, yippeekkiiyaay you are probably about to more than double up
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Old 08-26-07, 09:40 PM
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Re: What would you do here?

personally i would just fold unless you have some reason to think he is bluffing, but you said he was playing tight so scratch that. as was already said, short table i would play but not a full table.
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Old 08-26-07, 09:51 PM
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Re: What would you do here?

also i should say there was a time when i would have made that call, but you gotta give the guy credit. he must have had something. and i would hate to go out on a draw.
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Old 09-18-07, 06:25 PM
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Re: What would you do here?

Take a card and fold if miss. You still have plenty of chips. if he shows weakness. and you think you can take it, Take it!
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