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Old 10-17-07, 07:40 PM
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Absolute Poker Cheating Scandal

The Absolute Poker Cheating Scandal Blown Wide Open - Freakonomics - Opinion - New York Times Blog

The Absolute Poker Cheating Scandal Blown Wide Open

By Steven D. Levitt

A few weeks back I blogged about allegations of cheating at an online poker site called Absolute Poker. While things looked awfully suspicious, there wasn’t quite a smoking gun, and it was unclear exactly how the cheater might have cheated.

A combination of some incredible detective work by some poker players and an accidental (?) data leak by Absolute Poker have blown the scandal wide open.

You can read the first-hand account in the following thread at 2+2 Poker Forum, but here’s the short version:

Some opponents became suspicious of how a certain player was playing. He seemed to know what the opponents’ hole cards were. The suspicious players provided examples of these hands, which were so outrageous that virtually all serious poker players were convinced that cheating had occurred. One of the players who’d been cheated requested that Absolute Poker provide hand histories from the tournament (which is standard practice for online sites). In this case, Absolute Poker “accidentally” did not send the usual hand histories, but instead sent a file that contained all sorts of private information that the poker site would never release. The file contained every player’s hole cards, observations of the tables, and even the IP addresses of every person playing. (I put “accidentally” in quotes because the mistake seems like too great a coincidence when you learn what followed.) I suspect that someone at Absolute knew about the cheating and how it happened, and was acting as a whistleblower by sending these data. If that is the case, I hope whomever “accidentally” sent the file gets their proper hero’s welcome in the end.

Then the poker players went to work analyzing the data — not the hand histories themselves, but other, more subtle information contained in the file. What these players-turned-detectives noticed was that, starting with the third hand of the tournament, there was an observer who watched every subsequent hand played by the cheater. (For those of you who don’t know much about online poker, anyone who wants can observe a particular table, although, of course, the observers can’t see any of the players’ hole cards.) Interestingly, the cheater folded the first two hands before this observer showed up, then did not fold a single hand before the flop for the next 20 minutes, and then folded his hand pre-flop when another player had a pair of kings as hole cards! This sort of cheating went on throughout the tournament.

So the poker detectives turned their attention to this observer. They traced the observer’s IP address and account name to the same set of servers that host Absolute Poker, and also, apparently, to a particular individual named Scott Tom, who seems to be a part-owner of Absolute Poker! If all of this is correct, it shows exactly how the cheating would have transpired: an insider at the Web site had real-time access to all of the hole cards (it is not hard to believe that this capability would exist) and was relaying this information to an outside accomplice.

If this is all true, I presume that the two cheaters are looking at potential prison time. I would also guess that if Absolute Poker continues to argue that nothing out of the ordinary happened, they will take an enormous hit to their profits. Online poker is a game of trust — players send their money to a site believing that they will be playing a fair game, and trusting that the site will send them their winnings. If there is even a little bit of uncertainty about either one of those factors, there is no good reason for a player to choose that site over the many close substitutes that exist. If I ran Absolute Poker, I would take a lesson from past corporate attempts at cover ups, sacrifice the cheaters, and institute safeguards to prevent this ever happening again.

The real lesson of this all, however, is probably the following: guys who aren’t that smart will figure out ways to cheat. And, with a little luck and the right data, folks who are a lot smarter will catch them doing it.
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Re: Absolute Poker Cheating Scandal

Wow, that's wild Fuuf. Thanks for the info.
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Re: Absolute Poker Cheating Scandal

I can not think of a way that online poker rooms can stop collusion except for removing all chat logs and having it so when you open the poker room it offers you a list of stakes you can play at and randomly assigns you to a table. Playing at higher stakes these days is pretty risky unless you have a trustworthy site that takes action.
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Re: Absolute Poker Cheating Scandal

this type of cheating has been around for years.. us in the gaming comunity call the mappers.. or map-hackers.. its basically removing the "shroud" or haze over the map without scouting.. thus allowing someone to attack from suprise angles and build certain defenses.. i think people have been cheating at online cards for years with thi type of "card revealer".. as a student of engineering you learn that the word random is used losely in computer programing.. and in most cases online poker is still a system where certain combinations come up and etc.. i played at pokerroom at the ow limit tables to test the waters a few years ago and it seemed the board always has potential for straight, flush, trips and or full house... you play in real life this **** doesnt happen near as often.. i think they bait players, profile them and try to win money back or increase action on a hand to up te houses take "rake"... the ****ing RAKE...

gl whatever you guys do
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Re: Absolute Poker Cheating Scandal

One thing to note: if you click on the article link, below it is comments to the story, some very interesting ones, including links to the evidence (videos) on youtube. It made me sick to my stomach seeing him make the right plays every single time.

Really makes you wonder about the legitimacy of online poker. I do, however believe that the random card generators are NOT rigged to produce certain results; we just see more crazy hands online versus live because we play so many more at a faster rate.

Also, a friend also recently told me about this software you can purchase that cracks the random generator code to tell you what will come in the community cards.

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Old 10-18-07, 04:16 AM
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Re: Absolute Poker Cheating Scandal

Unbelievable. Thank you for the information. I am so glad that I never played poker on Absolute. I am curious as to what kind of results will follow. Guess I will just have to stay tuned.
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Re: Absolute Poker Cheating Scandal

Thank you for the info!! Do you think this is possible on any other site that exists now? I hate to believe that there are cheaters out there that take advantage of the power their jobs give them.
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Re: Absolute Poker Cheating Scandal

wow... i didnt know this type of cheating was possible... i play a lot of online poker and this is ridiculous.. i wonder if this happens on bodog and pokerstars!??
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Re: Absolute Poker Cheating Scandal

Absolute Poker's Official Statement

This is their official statement
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Re: Absolute Poker Cheating Scandal

What a crock! I mena I always knew that there was some aspect of online poker that had to be rigged. You just hope it is not the owner/ operators of the sites. I guess we all know why the US won't allow it. Well, that and because they can't get paid off of it.
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